Aug 18, 2006, 02:24 PM // 14:24
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#41
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cedartown, Georgia
Profession: R/
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Originally Posted by ForgeBitch
I'd like to see an event that applied to 'me'. I don't have factions and I don't like PvP. And so far I haven't seen anything that makes things better for me. If these were incentives to help encourage me to buy nightfall, they are falling short. As well when I ramp up to do a run or mission or quest or something only to find out that the servers are down all night because of all the increased activity, doesn't impress me either. But as usual I'm a minority...
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You have to look at it like this...Cantha is their "current world". Your demographic is small to them..Tyria only players that only PvE. They originally advertised "Independent chapters you wouldn't have to buy if you didn't want too" but that is misleading, as they really only push the latest chapter so you are missing alot of additional content by not updating.
Anyway, at this point they probably have to assume if you are a Chapter 1 Stalward and don't PvP you didn't have much incentive or desire to buy Nightfall in the first place. There will always be people that remain in one world, especially since Tyria has proven itself to be much better than the other world shown.
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Aug 18, 2006, 02:33 PM // 14:33
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#42
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2006
Profession: Mo/N
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Pretty obvious they support their most recent chapter,don't say you expected anything else because it's exactley what YOU would do if you ran the game. Tyria has Sorrows furnace and acces to UW, the fissure,the battle isles and the hall of heroes.Also it has Assassins and Ritualists going trough it for secondary skills. Chapter done.Time to move on. GG
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Aug 18, 2006, 02:33 PM // 14:33
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#43
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2006
Guild: Shinigami Keys [SHIN]
Profession: R/Mo
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Keep the weekend events coming. I love them.
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Aug 18, 2006, 02:37 PM // 14:37
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#44
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Las Vegas
Guild: Beautiful Peoples Club [LIPO]
Profession: Mo/Me
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Well i disagree that they should have less events in the sense of how it affects areas, but i do however agree that the events have been less then spectacular. Having these continuosly poor events just degrades the really good ones, like the dragon festival, IMO. The double drops in the elite missions was crapola, we got double drops alright, double junk, tons of white weapons and salvage items that most people are already overstocked with. I'd really like to see them put some thought into expansion type events then labor over the next "double coupon" event that only lowers the economy. Remember sorrows furnace? Talk about congestion and a really awesome event!! Even beefing up rotwing to drop the bow was beter thought out then this kind of stuff. There's lots of suggestions floating around the forums on things they can do to improve gameplay and interest in the game, and not much, if any, has been brought to light. Yet we continue to have events like this PVP thing. Frankly no one does either jade or aspenwood cuz they just aren't any fun, not because they aren't getting publicity. On an average day, you'd be lucky to find a full party in either place.
I was really hoping that they'd add new bosses and challenges with these new skin drops, now it just looks as though they are promoting chest farmers. Anyway, i'm still going to do FOW and UW this weekend just for the newly added skins that drop, but I highly doubt I'll be running around cantha chest farming or be caught anywhere near aspenwood or jade
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Aug 18, 2006, 02:40 PM // 14:40
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#45
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: California
Guild: SBD
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IMO the weekend events are cool. It does break up the continuous going back and forth....doing the same missions and quests over and over. I say keep them coming!!!
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Aug 18, 2006, 02:40 PM // 14:40
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#46
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Grind is subjective
Guild: learn this please
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gabrial heart
Frankly no one does either jade or aspenwood cuz they just aren't any fun, not because they aren't getting publicity. On an average day, you'd be lucky to find a full party in either place.
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You should probably do them before claiming to know what you're talking about. There's ALWAYS a game going in Aspenwood.
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Aug 18, 2006, 02:41 PM // 14:41
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#47
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Chicago IL
Guild: Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]
Profession: W/P
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This entire idea is just illogical. Why complain about something fun that ArenaNet is doing? It's not like you have to participate. Hell, it's not like you HAVE to play Guild Wars, and it's certainly not like you have to post rants like this.
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Aug 18, 2006, 02:43 PM // 14:43
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#48
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Denmark
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Because it's a conspiracy and ANET are inherently evil and out to get us
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Aug 18, 2006, 02:59 PM // 14:59
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#49
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Las Vegas
Guild: Beautiful Peoples Club [LIPO]
Profession: Mo/Me
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Originally Posted by GUE Tech
I really wasn't trying to be cynical. I truly believe they are trying to keep this ship from sinking till the next chapter. They have to do something to keep people buying factions, and keep people playing till Nightfall comes out.
Am I so far off, that this isn't what they are trying to do?
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Not totally off, no, not according to the numbers. Factions and Prophs are still selling. Still, just looking through the forums, a rather large majority of PVE players just aren't happy with Factions, but they bought it. So i don't think Anets trying to keep the ship from sinking just yet, but they are putting very little into these events. If they took the combined resources of the 2 months they used for these events, they might have been able to develop one event that would carry factions right into nightfall. Sorrows was a perfect example of that kind of thing. Unfortunatly factions is so quick to complete, people are just not as thrilled with the hours of gameplay they had in chapter 1 and a-net doesn't have that gap of time to develop some end-game expansion, so we have these rather cheap little events to carry interest and i really feel it falls short.
Alot of the mentality behind many of these events is to get PVP and PVE players to "live" in each others world for a minute. Pver's can have something to accomplish through PVP and vice versa. To bad, as we've all seen before, getting one type to do something different and new is like pulling teeth, minus the tooth fairy.
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Aug 18, 2006, 03:08 PM // 15:08
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#50
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: South Pole
Guild: The Magus Order
Profession: N/Mo
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Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood
A) Even if the OP has a point, he's approaching it the wrong way. "Stop the Events" is the thread title. It begs to be misunderstood.
B) It's extremely ungrateful for the amount of attention we DO get from Anet.
c) Someone close and delete this thread...Please.
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Would you care to tell me a way in which I could change the title, because last time I checked, it won't let me.
Anyhow,
I really wish people would think a little more before posting. They are jumping to conclusions (almost all false) and getting worked up about nothing.
I have clearly stated, at least twice already, that I don't want the events gone, I want them reduced. Constant events may seem good to some of you, but other people want to just have a plain weekend.
One of the biggest issues I have is that, if I try to ignore the event, it's not made very easy. Large masses of people will flood into areas for the event, and completely ignore normal areas. I might have wanted to do Thunderhead Keep or Raisu Palace this weekend, but I can't because most people are doing the event, and many of the people left aren't good enough.
I first thought of the events as "special", but now they are becoming normal and annoying. Dispite the fact that I like the game, and I hardly get bored, I can see that this is turning into an attempt to please the players, to keep them playing.
I'm not against fun, or having them do something I like, but wouldn't you get suspicious if you parents suddenly started giving you presents all the time, for no reason?
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Aug 18, 2006, 03:09 PM // 15:09
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#51
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: United States
Guild: Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]
Profession: E/
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To me these are not "events" in the sense I know events (halloween, winterfest) but more like "special rules" weekends to be honest.
And so far I love them. Some did not intrest me, I just ignore them. I messed the Nightfall PvP preview.. but it didn't bother me, I will be doing the Nightfall PvE preview.
To OP - I disagree with you
To Anet - Keep them coming there fun
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Aug 18, 2006, 03:12 PM // 15:12
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#52
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Defected back to America
Profession: Me/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
One of the biggest issues I have is that, if I try to ignore the event, it's not made very easy. Large masses of people will flood into areas for the event, and completely ignore normal areas. I might have wanted to do Thunderhead Keep or Raisu Palace this weekend, but I can't because most people are doing the event, and many of the people left aren't good enough.
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This is kind of interesting, because this is exactly what people at those events have been complaining about, that people there didn't know what they were doing. So if the "good" people aren't at the events, and neither are they at the normal areas, where are they?
Besides, henchies are always there, and they do listen.
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Aug 18, 2006, 03:14 PM // 15:14
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#53
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Las Vegas
Guild: Beautiful Peoples Club [LIPO]
Profession: Mo/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
You should probably do them before claiming to know what you're talking about. There's ALWAYS a game going in Aspenwood.
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True, I haven't been there in awhile simply due to the fact's that partying there was such a long pain in the arse and didn't enjoy the play when i did get with guild groups. I agree that aspenwood is the more popular of the 2, still think that both are pretty un-fun and have done both numerous times in the past.
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Aug 18, 2006, 03:15 PM // 15:15
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#54
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: South Pole
Guild: The Magus Order
Profession: N/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by milias
This is kind of interesting, because this is exactly what people at those events have been complaining about, that people there didn't know what they were doing. So if the "good" people aren't at the events, and neither are they at the normal areas, where are they?
Besides, henchies are always there, and they do listen.
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This difference is that at the events, people say that there are more bad players, but it's just because there are more players. The more people there are, the more likely you will end up with someone inexperienced.
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Aug 18, 2006, 03:20 PM // 15:20
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#55
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Chicago IL
Guild: Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]
Profession: W/P
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
This difference is that at the events, people say that there are more bad players, but it's just because there are more players. The more people there are, the more likely you will end up with someone inexperienced.
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Um, wrong. It increases the shear number of idiots, not the chance of getting one in your group. Regardless, that's what guilds are for.
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Aug 18, 2006, 03:24 PM // 15:24
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#56
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God of Spammers
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: in the middle of a burning cornfield...
Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)
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This events are meant to be fun, not to cause a hassle. Just enjoy them. Give them time, they will go away. Once Nightfall comes out you wont see another one till Halloween or Christmas.
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Aug 18, 2006, 03:27 PM // 15:27
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#57
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Frost Gate Guardian
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
I'm not against fun, or having them do something I like, but wouldn't you get suspicious if you parents suddenly started giving you presents all the time, for no reason?
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Get lots of coal in your stocking at Christmas?
Seriously though these events are one of the best things that has happened to Guild Wars by giving incentive to try new areas you may have not bothered with.
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Aug 18, 2006, 03:28 PM // 15:28
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#58
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2006
Profession: Mo/N
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Oh, i'm pretty happy with factions. You just need to take it easy and keep yourself from breezing trough it, deleting your character and do the same again. If i did that it would cease to be fun very fast indeed.
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Aug 18, 2006, 03:29 PM // 15:29
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#59
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Nil nisi malis terrori.
Join Date: Aug 2005
Profession: Mo/Me
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I really enjoy the events, so I hope they don't stop them.
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Aug 18, 2006, 03:41 PM // 15:41
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#60
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Inside
Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
Would you care to tell me a way in which I could change the title, because last time I checked, it won't let me.
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You could ask a moderator to chage the title to "Constructive Comments on the Constant Weekend Events" or something along those lines. "Stop the Events" isn't what you really meant anyway...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
I really wish people would think a little more before posting. They are jumping to conclusions (almost all false) and getting worked up about nothing.
I have clearly stated, at least twice already, that I don't want the events gone, I want them reduced. Constant events may seem good to some of you, but other people want to just have a plain weekend.
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I understand, and point taken regarding my post earlier. You have made some good points so far, but... you could have taken you own advice and used a non-flammable thread title. I don't want to beat on you here, a mistake is a mistake. It happens. Lets move forward.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
One of the biggest issues I have is that, if I try to ignore the event, it's not made very easy. Large masses of people will flood into areas for the event, and completely ignore normal areas. I might have wanted to do Thunderhead Keep or Raisu Palace this weekend, but I can't because most people are doing the event, and many of the people left aren't good enough.
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Reasonable criticizm, but do you have an alternative besides having less 'events'? I would agree with previous posters that a Sorrows Furnace-type area, built for farmers, would be a better alternative to constant weekend events. Except that this weekend event is really PvP-centric.
Sure there are new items/skins dropping, but there is no indication that those will end after the weekend...think Totem Axes.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
I'm not against fun, or having them do something I like, but wouldn't you get suspicious if you parents suddenly started giving you presents all the time, for no reason?
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Well, of course it's Anet trying to keep player interest up until Nightfall. I think it's a given that Factions was disappointing to players and Anet. What I wonder, is if there has been a sharp dip in the player populations recently, and the events are the Anets pressing of the 'Alert' button (if not the Panic Button itself).
I'm not being an Alarmist...just asking. I haven't heard ANYTHING about the GW population lately, and that is a drum they beat on when things are going well. Silence is usually bad.
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